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Razmatram kupvinu Colta 1911, 45 acp.
Otvoren sam za prijedloge koji kupiti.
Uvjeti i Svrha:
Mora biti americke proizvodnje.
45 ACP
Single stack
Svrha rekreativno streljastvo na streljani.
Bez modernih dodataka poput piccatiny sine i slicno.
Cim slicniji izvornom modelu.
Da je dostupan lokalno, Slovenija, Hrvatska.

Koji bi preporucili?
Colt
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Wilson combat
itd
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Neki specifičan razlog zašto mora biti američki?

npr: STP Perfect Classic je njemački proizvod koji dolazi sa KKM Precision cijevi, Extreme Engeneering okidanje, JEM Enterprises frame itd..u biti je sve američko osim navlake...

https://www.stpgun.de/e-sentry-5-6-Zoll ... stole.html

https://www.stpgun.de/e-perfect-classic ... stole.html

Sve je kovano/glodano.
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timmy75 wrote:Neki specifičan razlog zašto mora biti američki?
American Icon - mora biti americki. ;)
Svrha je BBQ gun, ili show off na streljani, cisto iz gusta.
ALi ovo sto si dao na linku, odlicno izgleda!
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Colt Gold Cup National Match ili Springfield Trophy Match...Imao sam i STP Spartu u 9mm, obrada i tolerancije kao Peters Stahl jedino je okidanje loše..kao kod obične čeze M75 ;)
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istra champion wrote:Colt Gold Cup National Match ili Springfield Trophy Match..
Trgovina koja ovo nudi?
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Proarmis, polovno po narudžbi.
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Koje su cijene takvih primjeraka?
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Ak je samo za show off - colt custom royal blue
Ak ćeš nešto malo više za natjecanje - COLT Gold Cup National Match Blued 5" - možeš naručiti preko svih ČZ distributera novo (ancelj, lovac)
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Colt, naravno. Original. Pogotovo ako je za vlastit užitak.
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Ne zanima te neki SMith - Performance center ?

- jednoredni spremnik
- .045 ACP
- Steinless
- itd...

Mali ih ima na trzistu, ali barem znas sto imas ?
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Dosao bi u obzir, ali vjerojatno ce biti nesto drugo.
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Ako samo za strelište, ja bih pogledao Springfield 1911. Koliko znam od ljudi u SAD, dobro oružje, sve kovano, nema lijevanih dijelova. Jedini problem, za tebe, mislim da se rade u Brazilu.

Ali, ako hoćeš pravu stvar u 45 ACP, onda S&W 4506-1 (ne 4506 https://www.dorotheum.com/en/l/470920/ , taj je slabiji). Iznimno pouzdan, iznimno čvrst, dvoradni (DA). Koliko znam, cijev u potpunosti drži čahuru (full supported), i što je veoma zanimljivo, u cijev će iz spremnika ubaciti i praznu čahuru. I ne košta gomilu novca!

https://www.egun.de/market//item.php?id=19600528

Čak sam i ja razmišljao uzeti jednog i prebaciti ga na 45 Super https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Super , https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?t ... gs.503360/ .Volio bih ga koristiti s kuglama 250-255 graina, ali je problem u Europi dobiti čahure 45 Super.

Zapravo, možda mi je još bolji 1006 u 10 mm Auto https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/p ... 06--609198 . Taj ima na 100 m energiju kao i 45 ACP na samom izlazu iz cijevi.

Vrijedi napomenuti da je S&W razvio 1006 nakon što je cijeli niz 1911 pištolja u 10 mm Auto bio rasturen. Naboj je jednostavno bio prejak za tadašnje 1911. 1006 nikad nije imao tih problema, od početka je bio odličan. I što je bitno, 4506-1 je izravno razvijen iz 1006.
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Evo kako S&W 4506-1 radi s PRAZNIM ČAHURAMA, za nevjerovati:

https://youtu.be/E1xJSYKTZB0?t=998

Malo više o tom pištolju https://hipstertactical.com/blog/smith- ... -big-smith , i kako je nastao od 1006:

"Obviously, Smith & Wesson’s stalwart 4506 was a promising candidate for a 10mm platform. But, to tame the fury of 10mm, Smith redesigned the 4506 to have a thicker slide and frame, with (likely) some other minor modifications to the barrel and lockup. So, in keeping with the 3rd gen naming scheme, the pistol they came up with was deemed the “1006.”

But it’s not like .45 ACP was going away.

So, instead of going back to the original design of the 4506/645—which were more-or-less the same guns in different outfits—Smith & Wesson basically rechambered its 1006 in .45 ACP. This is what came to be known as the 4506-1. "
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Ma to je sve lijepo, i zasluzuje zasebnu temu, ali ja samo trazim colt 1911 u 45 acp. :A00:
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Samo ideja; znam za puškara na zapadu Kanade koji se specijalizirao za 1911, i na zadnje je radio samo na nekim kineskim (navodno ih ima više vrsta, i nisu svi isti). Taj na kojem on radi veli da je čelik jako dobre kvalitete. Istina, iz kutije nije baš prva liga, ali su bili jeftini. I kad mu se pritegnu vodilice i dotjera ostalo, niti za dlaku nije iza američkih na kojima se radi isto.

Inače, vidim da se u Njemačkoj prodaje priličan broj Peter Stahl. Ovi moji pajdaši kažu da su jako dobri, samo što je većina 6", iako se nađe pokoji i 5".
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Onty wrote: Peter Stahl..
Pa napisao sam da hocu americki colt 1911.
I want american icon! :A00:

A ne evopski. Imas evropskih kolko hoces....
Zasto ne pokrenes novu temu o kvalitetnim pistoljima od razlicith proizvodjaca?
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Nema problema. Dao sam si malo truda pa sam, na možda najveći forum u SAD, postavio pitanje:

American made 1911 in 45 ACP: which one is the best bang for the buck https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?t ... t-13113897

Sudeći po nekolko upisa, izgleda da bi najbolja kupovina bio DAN WESSON. Evo što kaže nettlle u #13:

"The Colt was $1,200 new. The Dan Wesson $1,200.00 used with about 200 rounds on it when I bought it. Both of these have nice triggers, accurate, and are very reliable. These are keepers. The Colt is a nice looking gun but is a long way from the fit and finish of the Dan Wesson."

Dakako, uz uvjet da se može nabaviti kao što si postavio. Ne zamjeri što nisam više tražio da bih to potvrdio, ali budući da je DAN WESSON sad dio korporacije ČZ, za očekivati je da bi njihove 1911 bile na prodaju u EU.

Što se tiče mojeg ukusa i prednosti, koji god bih odabrao, barem cijev mora biti od inoxa.
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Onty wrote: Sudeći po nekolko upisa, izgleda da bi najbolja kupovina bio DAN WESSON.
Da, Dan Wesson je solidan izbor. Ima reputaciju kvalitete. Promaklo mi ga je napomenuti u opcijama u prvom postu!
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Prvi put čujem za ove:

TISAS https://tisasusa.com/categories/1911-pi ... +%26+Slide

Kažu da su dijelovi iz kovanog čelika, da bi bili izdržljivi:

Constructed using forged and machined components to Colt® 70-Series specifications, our 1911 Single Stack pistols are designed for rugged durability and long-lasting performance. Whether you’re using your pistol for duty or everyday carry (EDC), these pistols offer exceptional reliability and precision, meeting the needs of any shooter."


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Cijena povoljna,a po opisu jako dobri pištolji.
E sad.......???
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